For this stitch I used #8 Perle Cotton and DMC 340, 3 strands. I done the backstitch first using yellow perle cotton , then whipped it using a violet DMC floss. There is a link at the side of the page that will take you to the stitchmap group if you would be interested in joining the fun. We have several different classes that run at different times. Join the group and get signed up for what classes you would like to take.